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		<title>By: TammyK</title>
		<link>http://www.misszoot.com/2007/10/03/we-interrupt-this-de-lurking-for-a-special-announcement/#comment-218244</link>
		<dc:creator>TammyK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy Crap!! Wow I love&#039;d this video. So True and to the point!! WTG Dove!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy Crap!! Wow I love&#8217;d this video. So True and to the point!! WTG Dove!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.misszoot.com/2007/10/03/we-interrupt-this-de-lurking-for-a-special-announcement/#comment-215744</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 13:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have been playing that ad all day on TV.  It&#039;s a good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have been playing that ad all day on TV.  It&#8217;s a good one.</p>
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		<title>By: monkey</title>
		<link>http://www.misszoot.com/2007/10/03/we-interrupt-this-de-lurking-for-a-special-announcement/#comment-213711</link>
		<dc:creator>monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But let me just say I really like your site and have been enjoying lurking for the past few months. I found you through Cagey of Rancid Raves and Stephanie of Completely Irrelevant. Congratulations on your recent good news-I hope everything is smooth sailing. 

Monkey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But let me just say I really like your site and have been enjoying lurking for the past few months. I found you through Cagey of Rancid Raves and Stephanie of Completely Irrelevant. Congratulations on your recent good news-I hope everything is smooth sailing. </p>
<p>Monkey</p>
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		<title>By: monkey</title>
		<link>http://www.misszoot.com/2007/10/03/we-interrupt-this-de-lurking-for-a-special-announcement/#comment-213705</link>
		<dc:creator>monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have linked back to my original post that discussed the particular article but in light of the recent controversy about leaving site addresses and increasing google rankings I decided against it. 

I am, myself, Indian and have faced the issue of skin tone (in that my mom is very fair and my dad is not and I have a lifetime of &quot;too bad you got your mom&#039;s beautiful features and your dad&#039;s yucky skin tone&quot; behind me) and the skin bleaching creams in India disgust me. I recall at least a couple of sites that discuss desi issues linking back to my post. 

Unfortunately I can&#039;t swear off unilever products entirely because my family and I, despite wonderful health otherwise, have horrible dermatalogical issues so I would look like a lizard if I were to use anything other than Dove. I&#039;ve even had to give up perfumes (recently) and like my mom, will eventually have to give up most makeup other than lipstick and kohl. So I use Dove right now but it doesn&#039;t change my opinion that their real beauty and image challenging ads are a lot of hot air and nothing more than clever marketing. And that&#039;s okay, I&#039;m very business oriented and appreciate marketing but I don&#039;t get all excited about them the way I used to before NYT Business published that article. To me it&#039;s just a good ad campaign, like those Vodka ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have linked back to my original post that discussed the particular article but in light of the recent controversy about leaving site addresses and increasing google rankings I decided against it. </p>
<p>I am, myself, Indian and have faced the issue of skin tone (in that my mom is very fair and my dad is not and I have a lifetime of &#8220;too bad you got your mom&#8217;s beautiful features and your dad&#8217;s yucky skin tone&#8221; behind me) and the skin bleaching creams in India disgust me. I recall at least a couple of sites that discuss desi issues linking back to my post. </p>
<p>Unfortunately I can&#8217;t swear off unilever products entirely because my family and I, despite wonderful health otherwise, have horrible dermatalogical issues so I would look like a lizard if I were to use anything other than Dove. I&#8217;ve even had to give up perfumes (recently) and like my mom, will eventually have to give up most makeup other than lipstick and kohl. So I use Dove right now but it doesn&#8217;t change my opinion that their real beauty and image challenging ads are a lot of hot air and nothing more than clever marketing. And that&#8217;s okay, I&#8217;m very business oriented and appreciate marketing but I don&#8217;t get all excited about them the way I used to before NYT Business published that article. To me it&#8217;s just a good ad campaign, like those Vodka ads.</p>
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		<title>By: supertiff</title>
		<link>http://www.misszoot.com/2007/10/03/we-interrupt-this-de-lurking-for-a-special-announcement/#comment-213609</link>
		<dc:creator>supertiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my plane didn&#039;t crash, so i thought i&#039;d celebrate by commenting again.
whee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my plane didn&#8217;t crash, so i thought i&#8217;d celebrate by commenting again.<br />
whee!</p>
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		<title>By: zoot</title>
		<link>http://www.misszoot.com/2007/10/03/we-interrupt-this-de-lurking-for-a-special-announcement/#comment-213467</link>
		<dc:creator>zoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@monkey - I looked it up and the NYT article is here:

http://tinyurl.com/2ncnen

It says this: &quot;Avon, L’Oréal, Ponds, Garnier, the Body Shop and Jolen are selling lightening products and all of them face stiff competition from a local giant, Fair and Lovely, a Unilever product that has dominated the market for decades.&quot; 

It sounds like Unilever is not the only product like that. It does sound disgusting, but I wanted to make sure I hunted down the article in case other readers were curious. It&#039;s not just Unilever, 

&quot; &#039;Half of the skin care market in India is fairness creams,&#039; said Didier Villanueva, country manager for L’Oréal India, and 60 to 65 percent of Indian women use these products daily. L’Oréal entered this specific market four years ago with Garnier and L’Oréal products, but so far has a small market share, he said.&quot;

And then later:

&quot;The All India Democratic Women’s Association has been monitoring advertisements since the 1990s and gets particularly angry with ads that convey the message “if she is not fair in color, she won’t get married or won’t get promoted,” said Manjeet Rathee, a spokeswoman for the association’s media group. The current crop of television ads for fairness creams are “not as demeaning” as ones in the past, she said.&quot;

So - just wanted to provide more information. It sounds like Unilever&#039;s products have the most disgusting advertising, but they aren&#039;t the only ones marketing the same idea: fair skin is better.  And maybe the outcry has made a difference since it seems some agree the current ads are better.  Also - it looks like Unilever has begun marketing the same product to men - so it&#039;s not just women.

Anyway - just wanted to make sure all of the information was there in case anyone wanted it. Thanks for motivating me to research it Monkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@monkey &#8211; I looked it up and the NYT article is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/2ncnen">http://tinyurl.com/2ncnen</a></p>
<p>It says this: &#8220;Avon, L’Oréal, Ponds, Garnier, the Body Shop and Jolen are selling lightening products and all of them face stiff competition from a local giant, Fair and Lovely, a Unilever product that has dominated the market for decades.&#8221; </p>
<p>It sounds like Unilever is not the only product like that. It does sound disgusting, but I wanted to make sure I hunted down the article in case other readers were curious. It&#8217;s not just Unilever, </p>
<p>&#8221; &#8216;Half of the skin care market in India is fairness creams,&#8217; said Didier Villanueva, country manager for L’Oréal India, and 60 to 65 percent of Indian women use these products daily. L’Oréal entered this specific market four years ago with Garnier and L’Oréal products, but so far has a small market share, he said.&#8221;</p>
<p>And then later:</p>
<p>&#8220;The All India Democratic Women’s Association has been monitoring advertisements since the 1990s and gets particularly angry with ads that convey the message “if she is not fair in color, she won’t get married or won’t get promoted,” said Manjeet Rathee, a spokeswoman for the association’s media group. The current crop of television ads for fairness creams are “not as demeaning” as ones in the past, she said.&#8221;</p>
<p>So &#8211; just wanted to provide more information. It sounds like Unilever&#8217;s products have the most disgusting advertising, but they aren&#8217;t the only ones marketing the same idea: fair skin is better.  And maybe the outcry has made a difference since it seems some agree the current ads are better.  Also &#8211; it looks like Unilever has begun marketing the same product to men &#8211; so it&#8217;s not just women.</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; just wanted to make sure all of the information was there in case anyone wanted it. Thanks for motivating me to research it Monkey.</p>
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		<title>By: monkey</title>
		<link>http://www.misszoot.com/2007/10/03/we-interrupt-this-de-lurking-for-a-special-announcement/#comment-213380</link>
		<dc:creator>monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>De-lurking to say that Unilever (Dove&#039;s parent company) markets those feel-good ads real beauty ads in the US and then sells skin bleaching cream to Indian women abroad while marketing &quot;fair as beautiful&quot; in a country with all sorts of issues related to said practice that are too complicated and numerous to go into in a blog comment.  There was a big article in NYT business about it recently. I would love to swear off their soap but I have sensitive skin and I&#039;m on it per my dermatologist. The minute I find something that doesn&#039;t cause a scaly rash, I&#039;m throwing them all out. 

Anyway, I&#039;ve never been able to look at their ads the same way again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>De-lurking to say that Unilever (Dove&#8217;s parent company) markets those feel-good ads real beauty ads in the US and then sells skin bleaching cream to Indian women abroad while marketing &#8220;fair as beautiful&#8221; in a country with all sorts of issues related to said practice that are too complicated and numerous to go into in a blog comment.  There was a big article in NYT business about it recently. I would love to swear off their soap but I have sensitive skin and I&#8217;m on it per my dermatologist. The minute I find something that doesn&#8217;t cause a scaly rash, I&#8217;m throwing them all out. </p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;ve never been able to look at their ads the same way again.</p>
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		<title>By: Frema</title>
		<link>http://www.misszoot.com/2007/10/03/we-interrupt-this-de-lurking-for-a-special-announcement/#comment-213066</link>
		<dc:creator>Frema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW. Talk about powerful.

I&#039;m so afraid for the little girl I&#039;ve got growing in here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW. Talk about powerful.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so afraid for the little girl I&#8217;ve got growing in here!</p>
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		<title>By: Kerith</title>
		<link>http://www.misszoot.com/2007/10/03/we-interrupt-this-de-lurking-for-a-special-announcement/#comment-213065</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THAT WAS AWESOME!  man, where was that commercial when i was growing up...thank god my daughter loves PBS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THAT WAS AWESOME!  man, where was that commercial when i was growing up&#8230;thank god my daughter loves PBS.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerith</title>
		<link>http://www.misszoot.com/2007/10/03/we-interrupt-this-de-lurking-for-a-special-announcement/#comment-213033</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are funny...i also find it hard to de-lurk for any significant amount of time...and luv the commerical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are funny&#8230;i also find it hard to de-lurk for any significant amount of time&#8230;and luv the commerical.</p>
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